ну вот и разрешилось

мог бы раскрыть тему полнее, что украинские разработчики добавили, какие недостатки устранили, интресно же, но видимо это тайна..

Об этом речь?

Тогда, продемонстрируйте, подскажите, где глянуть.

Даже с обоими

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там еще хитрая начинка есть

А насколько эффективны вот эти грузики с цепями ( или цепи с грузиками) по периметру башни ?

Их цель наверное не в разрушении РПГ как у решеток, а в раннем подрыве. Если они снижают вероятность поражения даже на 25-30%, то уже довольно таки эффективное решение... если учесть и простоту изготовления.

Учитывая что кроме книг есть даже видео материалы с 60ых годов, то я думаю если бы у Запада что-то такое было, то спустя полвека это было бы уже известно. Имхо, первая зарубежная система получившая общую известность была Израильская Iron Fist. А это разработки начала 21го века.

Я вот что нарыл:

http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA534867

А ето из книги "ABRAMS A History of the American Main Battle Tank" (by R.P. Hunnicutt)

Спасибо.

Отредактировано scout (2012-03-20 15:44:20)

это tams и был

http://armor.kiev.ua/ptur/azt/tams.html

оказалось на сайте это и было, у нас пулеметный КАЗ был "Оплот-МО"

Отредактировано Wiedzmin (2012-03-20 16:27:05)

Спасибо.

Bright Arrow - это Iron Fist с пулеметом. КАЗ и RCWS в одном флаконе.

Отредактировано Irina (2012-03-27 19:50:10)

Israeli Army Bulks Up on Soft-Kill Defenses

By BARBARA OPALL-ROME

TEL AVIV — In parallel to Israel’s slow, methodical deployment of high-end, hard-kill active protection systems (APS) on main battle tanks, the Army is fortifying a much larger number of ground vehicles with less expensive soft-kill countermeasures. The combination of hard-kill systems, such as Rafael’s Trophy, now being installed on new Merkava Mk4 tanks,with soft-kill countermeasures like the EoShield, by Elbit Systems’ Elop, is part of the Israeli Army’s multilayered solution for ground force protection.

Last month, the military acknowledged deployment of EoShield in units operating in the Israel Defense Force’s (IDF) Southern Command, bordering the Gaza Strip and Egypt. Known here as Brilliant Wand, the system provides 360-degree protection for a variety of ground platforms, using laser energy to interfere with an incoming anti-tank missile’s electronics, thus obviating the need for the more expensive hard-kill interceptors.

In a March 18 posting on the IDF’s official website, Maj. Nissan Mizrahi, head of Southern Command’s weapons and technology branch, said Brilliant Wand and another threat detection system, also by Elbit, were deployed in recent months in response to the influx of increasingly capable anti-tank missiles being smuggled into the Gaza Strip. He cited as evidence an April 2011 antitank missile attack on an Israeli school bus.

“Brilliant Wand provides defensive end-game coverage by way of countermeasures,” wrote Hadas Duvdevani, a private with the IDF’s Southern Command, in the online update. “It deflects the missile from its trajectory ... so that vehicles equipped with this system won’t be hit.” Defense sources say Israel is bulking up on EoShield and other stillclassified soft-kill systems in the near term as it continues to evaluate longterm APS procurement options for heavy armored carriers and other ground vehicles. Options include a second-generation version of Trophy, or Aspro B; the Iron Fist, by Israel Military Industries (IMI); a hybrid version of the Rafael and IMI systems; or a new, still-classified, nonkinetic defense system based on electronic jamming, laser and other technologies developed by Elbit.

In a March 13 briefing for reporters and financial analysts, Elbit CEO Yossi Ackerman disclosed ongoing work on a soft-kill system that he said would position Israel’s largest private-sector defense and electronics company at the cutting edge of the growing global market for force protection. Elbit is pursuing a new concept that moves beyond protection of individual platforms to a versatile, inexpensive system designed to defend multiple platforms against various threats.

“We’re developing a self-defense system that is cheap, passive, nonkinetic ... to equip all tanks, personnel carriers and a range of other vehicles, including bulldozers,” Ackerman said.

Elbit executives, citing classification restrictions, declined requests for more information. Elop President Adi Dar also declined to speak about the company’s ongoing work for the IDF or other customers, but agreed to discuss the operational EoShield as an example of the added value of cheap, soft-kill defenses.

“I prefer to use the word ‘costeffective,’” Dar said March 27.

“Countries with the most generous budgets can’t afford to put active defenses on all ground vehicles. And even if they could, active protection knows how to work on heavy platforms. It’s impossible, I think, to defend Hummers and lighter vehicles with hard-kill defenses, even though hard kill covers a wider spectrum of threats. So in the end, like everything in life, it’s a tradeoff,” Dar said.

He said it was difficult to make a direct comparison between the cost of an EoShield-protected vehicle to one integrated with hard-kill active protection systems such as Trophy. Last year, a Ministry of Defense procurement official said Israel’s tank procurement office is working with Rafael to drive down Trophy costs to approximately $200,000 per unit.

“I can’t say if it’s 50 percent, 60 percent or even 70 percent less expensive, but the gap is huge,” Dar said. “And [procurement price] is not the only parameter. With hard-kill protection, you need to revolutionize the platform whereas with EoShield, you merely connect two devices; it doesn’t affect the structure.” Moreover, as opposed to active protection, which requires constant replenishment of hard-kill interceptors, Dar said the EoShield’s soft-kill protection disperses an unlimited supply of laser energy. “It doesn’t fire anything but photons, so there’s no inventory and it doesn’t require a logistics tail,” he said.

EoShield is a stand-alone system designed to defend against secondgeneration anti-tank missiles like the Konkurs, which Lebanon-based Hezbollah used effectively against the IDF in the 2006 Lebanon War. It is based on infrared countermeasure technology developed for the firm’s Multispectral Counter system, used in Israel and abroad to defend aircraft and helicopters from shoulderlaunched missiles.

Defense and industry sources here suggested that the new, so-called “system of systems” passive defense now under development at Elbit would protect against a broader range of threats.

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